Dragon Ball Fans Stunned: Could Daima’s Super Saiyan 4 Secretly Fit Into Super’s Timeline?

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Summary

  • Goku unlocked SSJ4 for the first time in Dragon Ball Daima Episode 18, confirmed by the director.
  • Neva’s magic may have triggered Goku’s SSJ4 transformation.
  • Goku hasn’t used SSJ4 in Dragon Ball Super; it may require magic to unlock or maintain.

Fans have often pondered whether Dragon Ball Super and Daima, which introduced Super Saiyan 4, take place within the same universe, or if they exist as separate timelines.

Despite some viewers finding contentment in the idea that these two series belong to distinct universes or choosing to ignore any continuity links altogether, others remain determined to merge them into one universe. In truth, there are several methods available for such an accomplishment – yet, how is this possible?

Goku Unleashed SSJ4 For The “First Time” In Episode 18

I, as an outside observer, can share that Aya Komaki, one of the co-directors of “Dragon Ball Daima,” mentioned during an interview that Goku hadn’t managed to achieve Super Saiyan 4 by Episode 18 of this particular series. It’s important to note, however, that he did unlock this form earlier in another timeline, specifically in “Dragon Ball GT.

When Goku expressed his uncertainty about whether it would work, what he really meant was that up until that point, I hadn’t manifested my hidden SSJ4 form, but rather, I sensed a tremendous power within me, and I wasn’t sure if or when I’d be capable of fully unleashing it.

Apart from stating this, she emphasized that the arrangement was intended to convey the idea that a fresh manifestation was emerging during that particular period. By “emerging,” she meant that it represented something entirely novel (in terms of the timeline), and not a hidden ability that Goku had been concealing from others.

Does Her Statement Contradict Goku’s Quote?

In the show, when Vegeta inquired about his latest form, Goku admits he’d been practicing and wasn’t certain if it would function properly. This has led some viewers to speculate that Goku might have unlocked this form earlier in the series, which appears to conflict with Komaki’s statements regarding the storyline.

After encountering Buu, I found myself needing to significantly up my training regimen. His strength was unlike anything I had faced before, leaving me questioning if my efforts would bear fruit.

— Goku in DB Daima Episode 20.

In her interpretation, Goku’s initial statement seems somewhat unclear, and she provides additional insight into its significance. From her perspective, Goku did put in a lot of effort to grow stronger, yet he didn’t acquire any new abilities until Episode 18. As previously stated, he might have sensed something within himself, but he was uncertain about how to tap into it or if he would ever be able to unlock its potential.

Neva’s Magic Probably Triggered SSJ4

Initially, the transformation sequence made it seem as though Neva deliberately summoned SSJ4 using his magic, implying that SSJ4 was an extension of his magical abilities. Yet, although his magic likely played a crucial role, he may not have accurately predicted Goku’s response, and he likely hadn’t anticipated the existence of the Super Saiyan 4 form. Instead, he employed magic to prompt Goku to access his hidden strength, hoping that this would enable him to overcome Gomah with it.

Although some fans might have concluded that Neva’s magic didn’t trigger SSJ4 in Goku, Komaki invites us to consider an alternative perspective. It’s plausible that Neva’s magic functioned as a power-up for Goku, enabling him to regain briefly and intensify his strength, which ultimately led to the awakening of SSJ4.

Why Hasn’t Goku Used SSJ4 In Dragon Ball Super?

In this scenario, there remains plenty of opportunity for contemplation as to why Goku didn’t employ his SSJ4 form in Dragon Ball Super, given that both narratives share the same continuity. However, it is worth considering the possibility that these events could belong to separate timelines, hinted by the producer.

Observing here, it seems quite clear that Neva’s magical abilities may have played a role in the event at hand. Nonetheless, some fans might still wonder why Goku, given his ability to access Ultra Instinct, can’t also achieve SSJ4. However, it’s important to note that the Demon Realm is rich with magic, something not commonly seen to such an extent elsewhere in the series.

Among the two viable choices, both revolve around magic. The initial concept suggests that SSJ4 is a magical transformation, which implies that for Saiyans to activate this state, they would require some form of magic to tap into their hidden powers at their fullest.

The second point is this: SSJ4 is significantly more challenging and requires magic, or something akin to it, to attain and sustain. In fact, attempting to release it without the necessary means seems futile. This becomes especially true when one can easily unlock supposedly stronger forms with less effort. Since SSJ3 is already quite taxing, it’s reasonable to assume that SSJ4 would come with even more disadvantages. This theory could potentially imply a rewrite of the lore, suggesting that Goku had the ability to unleash SSJ4 in Dragon Ball Super all along, but he found it unnecessary.

Regardless of the approach, it seems clear that “Dragon Ball Daima” likely wasn’t created with “DB Super” as a primary consideration, suggesting that any inconsistencies between the two series might not have been a significant concern during production.

You can stream “Dragon Ball Daima” on platforms such as Netflix, Crunchyroll, and Hulu within the United States. In other regions and territories, it might be available on different services.

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2025-05-03 18:15